LMAO! They already know Christmas day is not his birthday because harvest was not in December it was in Aug/Sept. yet they still celebrate Jesus A.s. birthday in December. Isn’t that goofy, they openly admit he was born when the Quran tells us, in harvest time. LOL!
OKKKKKKKKKK! Is it me? I am the only person in the world that finds that odd?
Do as you want. And as you say, Christ was born in early September…on the 2nd of September in the year 3 BC. The visit from the Persian Astronomers (Wise Men) occurred when Christ was 15 months old, or on December 25, 2 BC. Christ is described as "a toddler" in the Persian Language regarding this event. So the First Christmas had to do with the visit from the Wise Men and therefore, Christmas can still be celebrated on the 25th of December. It really doesn’t matter what time of the year one celebrates the Birth of Christ, as long as one day is set aside annually to do so.
Above-mentioned dates are furnished by an astronomer at Texas A&M.
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November 30th, 2009 at 5:12 am
Do whatever you want, its your life.
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November 30th, 2009 at 5:59 am
It is celebrating his birth, not his birthDAY.
Sure most of the aspects of Christmas is pagan, but still.
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November 30th, 2009 at 6:49 am
I thought most historians agree that he was born sometime in May, but we are not sure of the year. I know it is confusing. December 25 was picked by the early Church: it was/is one of the pagan holidays.
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PS. I would chose other books/sources than the Quran to read about Jesus.
November 30th, 2009 at 6:56 am
So let me get this right. Someone who lived 600 years later and never meet Jesus knows more about when his birthday was then his own mother and the disciples who traveled with him for many years. OK……. {Insert Twilight Zone Theme}
The Bible does not give a day, month or even season for the birth of Christ. Since the actual date is unknown (and even a guess of Aug/Sept is not a "date", just a range – plus the people in the Middle East normally plant in the fall and harvest in the spring to match the rainy season in that area, not harvest in the fall), the date of December 25 is as good as any other date.
Oh, you are aware that not all Christian celebrate Christmas on that date, right? The Orthodox church celebrates it in early January.
A "mass" is simply a celebrate in honor of a person of virtue. It can be celebrated at any time, not just on the day of their birth or death. The Christ Mass was originally a celebration of the life of Christ. The celebrating of his birth at that time came much later. It made a nice contrast to the other Christ Mass which is celebrated on "Easter". Masses general come in two form: feast or fast. The Easter celebration was a fast (following a time of denial during Lent) and honors the death of Christ. So it only made since to have the other Christ Mass be a time of feast (following a time of celebration and gift giving) and to honor the birth of Christ.
As the date of his birth is unknown, December 25th is as good as any other day.
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November 30th, 2009 at 7:33 am
Do as you want. And as you say, Christ was born in early September…on the 2nd of September in the year 3 BC. The visit from the Persian Astronomers (Wise Men) occurred when Christ was 15 months old, or on December 25, 2 BC. Christ is described as "a toddler" in the Persian Language regarding this event. So the First Christmas had to do with the visit from the Wise Men and therefore, Christmas can still be celebrated on the 25th of December. It really doesn’t matter what time of the year one celebrates the Birth of Christ, as long as one day is set aside annually to do so.
Above-mentioned dates are furnished by an astronomer at Texas A&M.
Website:
http://www.bethlehemstar.net/
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November 30th, 2009 at 7:48 am
Who is "Jesus A.s."? It can not be a typographical error since you typed it the same way twice. Did you mean Jesus Christ, or someone else named "Jesus"? If you mean the son of God, Christ Jesus, no, he did not want anyone to celebrate his birthday in the first place, which was most likely in October.
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November 30th, 2009 at 8:16 am
Tell me, again, who that Christian "they" are who "openly admit" that the Quran is correct about Jesus’ birthday?
But most of us recognize that Christmas is a tradition, not a religious precept, the date of which was esssntially agreed-to in the early history of the Western Church, but which has also never been associated (either in the Bible OR traditions) with harvests of any kind.
So, I guess the answer is that it is just YOU who is out of touch.
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