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		<title>By: Randomness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randomness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 14:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its not wrong for agnostic to celebrate Christmas, Christmas has a lot of meanings to it other than the birth of Jesus Christ. Christians don&#039;t have a problem with atheists (or agnostics) celebrating Christmas but they just find it a bit odd.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its not wrong for agnostic to celebrate Christmas, Christmas has a lot of meanings to it other than the birth of Jesus Christ. Christians don&#8217;t have a problem with atheists (or agnostics) celebrating Christmas but they just find it a bit odd.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Sage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 14:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is nothing to do with either Christianity or Islam but it does have it&#039;s origins in the midwinter festival and many other basically pagan rites but since much of it is a celebration of nature rather than religion everyone should be able to enjoy it and be happy together despite religion!!

The ancient European pagans celebrated the midwinter festival and a number of other festivals long before Christianity ever existed!

Babylonians celebrated the feast of the Son of Isis with gluttonous eating and drinking, and gift giving and the goddess of fertility, love, and war. 

The Romans held a festival on 25 December called “Dies Natalis Solis Invicti, celebrating their own god Sol Invictas - PAGAN.

The Persian god Mithras, the Syrian sun god Elah Gabal, the German Sol, the Greek Helios and the Mesopotamian Shamash.  But also Saturnalia, honouring Saturn, the God of Agriculture. The law courts and schools were closed. No public business could be transacted an this is where the holidays originated - ALL PAGAN!!!

Wax tapers were given by the more humble to their superiors. The origin of the Christmas candle - PAGAN!!

In Rome groups of costumed went from house to house entertaining their people. And this was where the carolling Christmas tradition originated PAGAN!!

Statues of the Mother and lover or Mother and son were paraded through the streets not only in Italy but also in Africa, Spain, Portugal, France, Germany and Bulgaria. Thus, the symbolism of the Heavenly Virgin and the infant child paraded on a yearly basis are not of Christian origin. They stem from the Mother-goddess religion, which is very ancient ENTIRELY PAGAN!!.

Scandinavian countries celebrated Yule honouring Thor - PAGAN.  

In Germania (not Germany) they celebrated midwinter night followed by 12 wild nights of eating and drinking.  The 12 days of Christmas PAGAN!!

The church under Pope Julius I declared that Christ’s birth would be celebrated on December 25 in 350 AD in order to try to hijack the PAGAN festivals but it was largely ignored.  Christians did not really celebrate Christmas until 378 but it was then dropped in 381 and not resurrected until 400.

The Christmas tree stems from pagan tradition and ritual surrounding the Winter Solstice, which included the use of holly boughs ivy  and other foliage as an adaptation of pagan tree worship.  Holly and ivy represented male and female.  Mistletoe was considered a sacred plant, and the custom of kissing under the mistletoe began as a fertility ritual - all PAGAN!!

Santa Claus came from the Dutch “Sinterklaas” and was a tall figure riding a white horse through the air and usually accompanied by Black Peter, an elf who punished disobedient children.  Also the origin of the reindeer, sleigh and the elves ALL PAGAN!!

The modern red coated Santa was brought about by coca cola!!

America actually banned Christmas several times and is the originator of the expression  “Happy Holidays” which came about because of the pagan origins of Christmas to include all religions and traditions!!

The Venerable Bede, an early Christian writer pointed out that the Christian church absorbed Pagan practices when it found the population unwilling to give up the festivals. Thus a lot of what Christians now see as Christians practices are in fact pagan!!!

Christmas is the time of year christians strive to prove just how pagan they have become!!!&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is nothing to do with either Christianity or Islam but it does have it&#8217;s origins in the midwinter festival and many other basically pagan rites but since much of it is a celebration of nature rather than religion everyone should be able to enjoy it and be happy together despite religion!!</p>
<p>The ancient European pagans celebrated the midwinter festival and a number of other festivals long before Christianity ever existed!</p>
<p>Babylonians celebrated the feast of the Son of Isis with gluttonous eating and drinking, and gift giving and the goddess of fertility, love, and war. </p>
<p>The Romans held a festival on 25 December called “Dies Natalis Solis Invicti, celebrating their own god Sol Invictas &#8211; PAGAN.</p>
<p>The Persian god Mithras, the Syrian sun god Elah Gabal, the German Sol, the Greek Helios and the Mesopotamian Shamash.  But also Saturnalia, honouring Saturn, the God of Agriculture. The law courts and schools were closed. No public business could be transacted an this is where the holidays originated &#8211; ALL PAGAN!!!</p>
<p>Wax tapers were given by the more humble to their superiors. The origin of the Christmas candle &#8211; PAGAN!!</p>
<p>In Rome groups of costumed went from house to house entertaining their people. And this was where the carolling Christmas tradition originated PAGAN!!</p>
<p>Statues of the Mother and lover or Mother and son were paraded through the streets not only in Italy but also in Africa, Spain, Portugal, France, Germany and Bulgaria. Thus, the symbolism of the Heavenly Virgin and the infant child paraded on a yearly basis are not of Christian origin. They stem from the Mother-goddess religion, which is very ancient ENTIRELY PAGAN!!.</p>
<p>Scandinavian countries celebrated Yule honouring Thor &#8211; PAGAN.  </p>
<p>In Germania (not Germany) they celebrated midwinter night followed by 12 wild nights of eating and drinking.  The 12 days of Christmas PAGAN!!</p>
<p>The church under Pope Julius I declared that Christ’s birth would be celebrated on December 25 in 350 AD in order to try to hijack the PAGAN festivals but it was largely ignored.  Christians did not really celebrate Christmas until 378 but it was then dropped in 381 and not resurrected until 400.</p>
<p>The Christmas tree stems from pagan tradition and ritual surrounding the Winter Solstice, which included the use of holly boughs ivy  and other foliage as an adaptation of pagan tree worship.  Holly and ivy represented male and female.  Mistletoe was considered a sacred plant, and the custom of kissing under the mistletoe began as a fertility ritual &#8211; all PAGAN!!</p>
<p>Santa Claus came from the Dutch “Sinterklaas” and was a tall figure riding a white horse through the air and usually accompanied by Black Peter, an elf who punished disobedient children.  Also the origin of the reindeer, sleigh and the elves ALL PAGAN!!</p>
<p>The modern red coated Santa was brought about by coca cola!!</p>
<p>America actually banned Christmas several times and is the originator of the expression  “Happy Holidays” which came about because of the pagan origins of Christmas to include all religions and traditions!!</p>
<p>The Venerable Bede, an early Christian writer pointed out that the Christian church absorbed Pagan practices when it found the population unwilling to give up the festivals. Thus a lot of what Christians now see as Christians practices are in fact pagan!!!</p>
<p>Christmas is the time of year christians strive to prove just how pagan they have become!!!<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: ♥ Abra ♥</title>
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		<dc:creator>♥ Abra ♥</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 13:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No! Everyone who&#039;s anyone celbrates Christmas, except some severe religious exceptions.

It used to be a Christian festival, now it has turned into a popular, non-religious, worldwide festival.

Happy Xmas


xxx&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No! Everyone who&#8217;s anyone celbrates Christmas, except some severe religious exceptions.</p>
<p>It used to be a Christian festival, now it has turned into a popular, non-religious, worldwide festival.</p>
<p>Happy Xmas</p>
<p>xxx<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: dancingdog777</title>
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		<dc:creator>dancingdog777</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 13:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read this out loud and see if it changes your mind.

Dear Heavenly Father, please forgive me for the wrongs that I have done! I&#039;m sorry, and I want to receive You into my heart through the Love of Your Son, Jesus. Help me to love You and others so that I can be happy and make others happy. Teach me more about You from Your wonderful Book, the Bible. In the name of Jesus, Your Son, amen.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read this out loud and see if it changes your mind.</p>
<p>Dear Heavenly Father, please forgive me for the wrongs that I have done! I&#8217;m sorry, and I want to receive You into my heart through the Love of Your Son, Jesus. Help me to love You and others so that I can be happy and make others happy. Teach me more about You from Your wonderful Book, the Bible. In the name of Jesus, Your Son, amen.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Dakota Z</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dakota Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 13:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t say it&#039;s wrong that you celebrate Christmas. Of course the purpose of Christmas is that Christ comes back to Earth, and fills our souls with His grace Christmas Day. That&#039;s truly Christmas. And just because you live in the UK doesn&#039;t mean anything our friends are from the UK and they go to a Catholic Church, so you really can&#039;t have an excuse there. But I do hope and pray that one day you won&#039;t just celebrate the materialistic part of Christmas but dig deep into it&#039;s true meaning, which is a Mary Christ Mass. Have a nice Christmas.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t say it&#8217;s wrong that you celebrate Christmas. Of course the purpose of Christmas is that Christ comes back to Earth, and fills our souls with His grace Christmas Day. That&#8217;s truly Christmas. And just because you live in the UK doesn&#8217;t mean anything our friends are from the UK and they go to a Catholic Church, so you really can&#8217;t have an excuse there. But I do hope and pray that one day you won&#8217;t just celebrate the materialistic part of Christmas but dig deep into it&#8217;s true meaning, which is a Mary Christ Mass. Have a nice Christmas.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: whats_my_name_again?</title>
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		<dc:creator>whats_my_name_again?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 12:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>christmas has pagan origins and santa isn&#039;t in the jesus story ( i don&#039;t think he is anyway??) 

eat drink and be merry - who cares about the origins of christmas - its just the best time of year!!&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>christmas has pagan origins and santa isn&#8217;t in the jesus story ( i don&#8217;t think he is anyway??) </p>
<p>eat drink and be merry &#8211; who cares about the origins of christmas &#8211; its just the best time of year!!<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: maryjane</title>
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		<dc:creator>maryjane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 11:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most people (wrongly) think of Xmas as a Christian holiday.  It isn&#039;t!

So you not being a Christian and celebrating it makes you part of the norm .. doesn&#039;t it?

The roots of the Xmas celebration are pagan.  Has absolutely nothing to do with true Christianity.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most people (wrongly) think of Xmas as a Christian holiday.  It isn&#8217;t!</p>
<p>So you not being a Christian and celebrating it makes you part of the norm .. doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>The roots of the Xmas celebration are pagan.  Has absolutely nothing to do with true Christianity.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: MICHAEL R</title>
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		<dc:creator>MICHAEL R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 11:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe in any gods etc. Christmas is a great holiday where you have the opportunity to see all your friends and family. Give them presents, make them happy. If you take god out of the equation, then life is just about Living and about our relationships with other people - that seems like a pretty good thing to be celebrating. Just get on with it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe in any gods etc. Christmas is a great holiday where you have the opportunity to see all your friends and family. Give them presents, make them happy. If you take god out of the equation, then life is just about Living and about our relationships with other people &#8211; that seems like a pretty good thing to be celebrating. Just get on with it.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: loopy_lisa_liverpool</title>
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		<dc:creator>loopy_lisa_liverpool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 10:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i celebrate christmas... comercially i love christmas... with me its more about spending time with family and loved ones and letting them know just that that i love them... its also a good time to relax an jus take the time out of a busy schedule to slow down.. and consider others and make an effort to see people you may not otherwise have visited&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i celebrate christmas&#8230; comercially i love christmas&#8230; with me its more about spending time with family and loved ones and letting them know just that that i love them&#8230; its also a good time to relax an jus take the time out of a busy schedule to slow down.. and consider others and make an effort to see people you may not otherwise have visited<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: christmas tomorrow, ooooh!</title>
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		<dc:creator>christmas tomorrow, ooooh!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 10:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, i believe in God.
I do use that day to celebrate the birth of jesus, but i also enjoy it because of the feeling of giving and i do enjoy the presents i recieve,
i enjoy being with my family and christmas dinner.
So no, it is not wrong to celebrate christmas, yes i am going to do my christian duty and ask you to seek jesus, but christmas is about being with your family also.
enjoy the day.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, i believe in God.<br />
I do use that day to celebrate the birth of jesus, but i also enjoy it because of the feeling of giving and i do enjoy the presents i recieve,<br />
i enjoy being with my family and christmas dinner.<br />
So no, it is not wrong to celebrate christmas, yes i am going to do my christian duty and ask you to seek jesus, but christmas is about being with your family also.<br />
enjoy the day.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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